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Loits
Lembetu discussing about Loits

1.- Since the formation of the band back in 1996, you have released the first album back in 2002. Would you say that this release was properly distributed? I ask you this because besides Eastern Europe, there weren't that much distributors carrying it. Are you satisfied with it as debut effort?

First of all I have to thank you, cause I can’t really remember when was the last time I put „Ei Kahetse Midagi” in my player and thoroughly listened to it. I did that now and I have to admit I liked what I heard. In these three years (The first version of the material was published in 2001) „Ei Kahetse Midagi” has been out, its value hasn’t diminished one bit. Thus I consider our debut a very satisfying one.
Also I wouldn’t complain about distribution. Over 2000 copies of it have been released in various formats and all of them have been sold out. From time to time I receive e-mails from record companies asking to release „Ei Kahetse Midagi” again, and we surely will. We just have to pick the best bidder. Maybe then the material will reach places it hasn’t reached before. I’d gladly listen to „Ei Kahetse Midagi” from a vinyl some day.

2.- Musically, I've found your music to be mid-tempo oriented, with a definitive Black Metal basis, although you don't necessarily call your music BM. So could you describe your musical influences and general (musical)ideas before composing a song?

We call Loits’ style militant black metal or just flak’n’roll! We have avoided the words ‚black metal’ from the beginning, because our message is far from being satanic. But black metal is by nature music with a satanic message.
The new Loits is musically mid-tempo norsecore, spiced up with some rock’n’roll passages. At one time epically heroic, at the other raw and brutal. The uniqueness of our music might be because of that besides various metal styles we also listen to a lot of other music. Indie synthpop, noise industrial, neo-folk etc. Lately we’ve been sources of inspiration for each other in the band. We like experimenting with our songs.

3.- In which way the Militaristic and Industrial music take part in the general concept and atmosphere of Loits? Please explain.

You’re probably asking this because on our „Legion Estland” EP there’s a song „Terasevanne”, that by it’s sound goes about in the same league with noise industrial and has an old militant march in the background. The song came pretty spontaneously and with no real ulterior motive. Or if then maybe to emphasize the militaristic tone of „Legion Estland”. As a hint I can tell you that bands like Der Blutharsch, Deutsch Nepal and Blood Axis are among our favourites.
Those who are even by the slightest in touch with Loits’ ideological side know that all of our new material is more or less connected to war. So it’s no wonder you can hear influences of militaristic music or motives in our songs. That little addition binds the message to the music and vice versa. It’s a very logical step if you concentrate on what’s Loits all about just a bit.

4.- To be honest, I haven't had any idea of the existence of an extreme metal scene in Estonia. Could you give an overview of that scene and general impressions of the bands?

Hmmm, I hope I won’t get carried away here. Let’s make this so, that I’ll write about a couple of interesting things and the rest is up to you to find out. First of all we have this excellent webpage called http://estonianmetal.com , where you can find out practically about anything that happens in our scene. The page is relatively new and there’s room for improvement but it already provides a good deal of information. This site and some other bigger local forums compensate for the lack of a local metalzine. It’s the same case with record companies. There are no record companies or distributors focused on extreme metal. I hope the situation will change soon. The good thing is that commercial distributors and record companies have increasingly taken interest in our UG scene. But when it comes to concerts then everything is in perfect order. There’s a metal concert here at least every weekend. A great bunch of thanks goes to the HRC club that dragged the Estonian scene out of the low of the 90’s. By today, many smaller clubs have emerged and one new and big one – the Rock Café!
From the active bands I’d bring out Horricane (slow death metal – just signed with Black Mark Records), Tharaphita (Estonia’s oldest pagan black metal band), Manatark (technical black metal – was on tour with Mayhem this year), Must Missa (thrashy black metal – latest album released under Death to Mankind Records). That’s just a fraction of our scene that’s rapidly growing. Every day brings some pleasant news.

5.- Ok, now let's move on to the subject of lyrics. What are the ideological motivations for the existence of Loits? I ask you this, because the first thing that caught my attention in your propaganda was the sentence: "this is a band motivated by historical hatred”. Please explain.

For me and my comrades, Loits means an opportunity to make not art for art's sake, but to express our convictions and views through art. We speak of things that are close to our heart and mostly they’re connected to nationalism and history.

6.- I'm actually curious about this: Can be considered Loits simply as an historical band, or as a nationalistic band? Why?

Both. An Estonian can’t keep those two apart. There should be a drop of nationalism in the blood of every Estonian, in order to preserve such a small nation among the great ones. Just as well we have to know the past to be prepared for what future might bring. Loits often tells about things that happened in the past, but our sights are set on the future.

7.- Your lyrics and concepts seem focused for the major part in a quite recent Estonian conflict (WWII) and not that much on mythology as you state, right? Can they seen as hymns to the fallen soldiers or an homage to war itself? Please explain.

Of mythology and the Estonian people tells our first album „Ei Kahetse Midagi”. „Vere Kutse Kohustab” also includes songs with a national-romantic content, but mainly our latest record is a bow to those men to whom no loss was too great for fighting for a free Estonia. Mainly it’s dedicated to the men who fought against the red terror in German uniforms, but we haven’t forgotten the Finnish Boys or the Forest Brothers. They all had the same goal, and that was a free Estonia!
Hardly any of those brave men worshipped war and neither do we. It’s just that Estonians have often had to defend their freedom by means of arms.

8.- In which way WWII affected the development of the current Estonian society, from a social and political perspective?

Well, WWII affected all of the European nation’s development, both politically and socially and those scars are far from having healed. On the contrary. The whole world’s in disarray due to this war. That’s why it’s so hard for us to speak of the Estonians who fought in WWII in German uniforms without us or these brave warriors being called Nazis and fascists. Open your eyes. 60 years of brainwashing has taken its toll everywhere. That war wasn’t as black and white as the victors are still trying to present it.
As you probably know, that war caused the 60-year long occupation of Estonia, in during which a horrible genocide was carried out against our people. Actually, the communists started with it in 1940, even before the German occupation. That was the main motivation for the first Estonians to get in German uniforms and go led the commies. Only later, in 1944 it completely turned into a fight for freedom.
60 years of Soviet occupation here devastated our land, our culture as well as our economy. Recovering from it will take even longer but we are a small and an eager nation. Thus the licking of our wounds takes less time for us than for other countries in a similar condition. What worries me more is what comes from the west right now. I don’t understand why should we accept everything that comes from the west. For a small country such as Estonia, the rules of the great ones do not apply! We should learn from their mistakes instead of repeating them!

9.- In all this, where does religion take part in the concept of Loits? Is the religious issue also present in your thematic or just the social one? From your own viewpoint, how do you think that the concepts of nationalism and paganism converge? Please evaluate through this.

The further we look into the past, the more have culture and religion been bound together. Practically there was no difference between them. With the intruding of new cultures came new religions and cultural conflicts. So remained in Estonia the ancient traditions and religion, to which was added the Christianity. The latter remained distant to our people because the religion of desert people does not match with the nature of Nordic people. Today the picture is even more variegated and it’s not exactly the nicest thing. Nationalism and paganism are just bound in the way that the old religion, customs and traditions are a part of our national culture. Without the aforementioned our people would loose it’s identity. Thus these are the values one should cherish and protect.
It’s difficult to clarify the connection between Loits and religion. We don’t really fight for or against any religion but as nationalists we have developed certain affections.

10.- In this modern society, where the current imposed Christian values of "pacifism" and "tolerance" are omnipresent, the concepts of War and Patriotism are generally taboo. So, how did Estonian scene/media received a perhaps "dangerous" band as Loits?

It’s not exactly common that an UG black metal band receives airtime on commercial radio stations every week and its interviews are published in the biggest newspapers. Just that has happened thanks to Loits’ latest release here. We’ve even topped in various sales charts. At the same time we’ve had to endure the attacks and vulgar insults by left-wing journalists. In the local metal scene we are more famous than ever before. Our road to media attention was paved by events that took place here a couple of months ago. WWII veterans and their supporters erected a statue in a small town in Western Estonia called Lihula, of an Estonian soldier serving in the German army in full equipment, with all the characteristic insignia. It turned into a scandal and most of the discontempt was made heard by the American and Russian Jewish organizations. Our country received warning notes from all over the world. Instead of explaining to the world, why and what for the Estonians dressed in German uniforms and joined the war, the government decided to remove the statue under the cover of the night with brute force. It would have been easy for them to explain why such a monument was erected here, because at the Nurnberg trial, Waffen-SS was indeed declared a criminal organization but an additional clause mentioned that the Baltic Legions are to be viewed separately from other SS units. Even the USA didn’t consider those brave men criminals after the war. The people rose up against such behaviour by the government and the police and the removers of the monument were thrown rocks at. The entire local media talked about that topic all days long. The pride of the people was hurt and the government lost the confidence of the voters.
I’m glad that such events took place here. It demonstrated that the Estonian’s national pride and the will to stand up for their rights has not disappeared, and that the government has to consider it. Diseases like political correctness and pseudotolerance have not yet gotten their roots very deep into the rocky soil of our country.

11.- Ok, compilating all of the ideas exposed in your lyrics, could you give your personal definition of the ideal Estonia and Europe, from a religious, social and political points of view?

As an ideal I see Europe as a community of national states, where each country holds dear their customs and traditions. Every country is treated as an equal and between them are friendly and active cultural and economical relations. None of the countries would get involved with another’s internal matters and in case of a common enemy they’d unite into one iron fist.

12.- How is the current relationship of the band with your new label Ledo Takas Rec? Could you give us a general overview of the new album?

Everything’s in the best order between us and Ledo Takas Records. Tadas has become a good friend of us, on whom we can always rely on and to whom no new and a crazy idea is crazy enough not to test it out. That’s just the spirit that suits Loits. Should you one day hold the „Vere Kutse Kohustab” digibook, you’ll know what I’m talking about.
The new album turned out just the way we expected and perfectly shows where we have come. The music and the ideological side have already been discussed in this interview so I have nothing more to add but get yourself the album and you’ll get 12 tracks of quality flak’n’roll!!!

13.- Future plans.

Well, we’re heavily engaged in the promoting of our new album. The first small tour through Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania awaits us in February and in spring we’ll be heading on a European tour again with Obtest.
Also we just finished our professional video for the song „Kodu” which awaits release. We’ll add that to our small biographic movie and best live footages and release a DVD. Actually there are much more news but we have no time to tell them all here.

14.- Last words for our readers.?

Flak’n’roll to all the readers of Psicoterror magazine! Peru and Estonia are distant, both culturally and geographically. So I’m not at all sure that you care about our local problems but maybe you got some addition to your knowledge about history and discovered a new and an interesting band for yourselves.



Author: Renzo Parodi
Zine: Psicoterror
www.warhatefront.cjb.net

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